saw archery in the proposed changes

Is Pheonix moving to the magic based archery system ? If so can we finally get a Classic cata server without the TOA nonsense ?

Mon 27 Apr 2020 3:58 PM by gotwqqd

Dramead wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 3:51 PM
Is Pheonix moving to the magic based archery system ? If so can we finally get a Classic cata server without the TOA nonsense ?

Please god no
That archery system sucks

Mon 27 Apr 2020 6:48 PM by inoeth

would gladly take a classic toa server without the cata nonesense

Mon 27 Apr 2020 7:09 PM by easytoremember

the classic cata non-dr laby hybrid-cl without cata classes seems promising

Live archery is gay
I always hated that it got turned into a spellcast and even more that it was identical across all three realms. Like even with as much as I hate the spell nature of it, you could have made them unique by splitting up the shots upon the archer class:

Ranger
standard shot
serpant (dot)
wyvern (dot)
rapid fire
volley

Scout
standard shot
critical
power shot
fire shot
longshot
penetrating shot

Hunter
standard shot
serpant (dot)
critical
ice shot
point blank
volley

with whatever theme one or the other has. For this example hunter has ice shot due to nordic nature of mid, scout has fire shot for the flaming arrows you'd expect from long-ranged archers, and ranger has 2 DoTs reflecting hib being notorious for nightshade poisons/viper
(but really magic archery is the lamest shit)

Mon 27 Apr 2020 9:13 PM by daytonchambers

did not see anything about archery changes in the planned changes section.

Where did you read this?

EDIT: saw the proposed change thread. This idea was floated last September and never materialized. And nowhere in the initial post was the new archery system mentioned. Think we're safe for now

Mon 27 Apr 2020 9:16 PM by chois

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12982

Tue 28 Apr 2020 1:12 AM by daytonchambers

chois wrote: ↑
Mon 27 Apr 2020 9:16 PM
https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12982

Thanks for posting this.

That said, it's been a month and there's still no official discussion thread about it yet.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:32 PM by piero

All archers for sure need a big boost, as all we know is a weak class, who can say The opposite?
An archer, without any ra up, can t kill Noone, and with ras up, maybe can kill someone... Maybe... Without forget that to kill an assassins need to have big big luck.
Tbh archers Vs assassins, can t do so much.
They can t open from distance with bow(but just leech 1 fight) and when they find assassin is too late, just need to engage the melee fight and waiting to die... That s what happen 90% of times.
Should need something like live thst archers see better assassins from far distance.... That could be for a fair fight..

Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:50 PM by Riac

piero wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:32 PM
All archers for sure need a big boost, as all we know is a weak class, who can say The opposite?
An archer, without any ra up, can t kill Noone, and with ras up, maybe can kill someone... Maybe... Without forget that to kill an assassins need to have big big luck.
Tbh archers Vs assassins, can t do so much.
They can t open from distance with bow(but just leech 1 fight) and when they find assassin is too late, just need to engage the melee fight and waiting to die... That s what happen 90% of times.
Should need something like live thst archers see better assassins from far distance.... That could be for a fair fight..

you must not know about rangers and hunters.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:22 PM by Quik

Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:50 PM
you must not know about rangers and hunters.

I have held off on playing a Hunter because of all the negativity. Are they in a decent place? If they are, are they decent because of melee skills or bows?

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:24 PM by Riac

Quik wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:22 PM
Riac wrote: ↑
Tue 28 Apr 2020 5:50 PM
you must not know about rangers and hunters.

I have held off on playing a Hunter because of all the negativity. Are they in a decent place? If they are, are they decent because of melee skills or bows?

full bow anything is bad on this server. youre gonna have to go a split spec or melee.
youd be better off just making a sin most likely, but that is my opinion.
once the style changes get here, who knows whatll happen though.

Tue 28 Apr 2020 6:51 PM by piero

Hunters as rangers are good 9nly every 15 minuts at high rr and sometime that is not enough

Tue 28 Apr 2020 7:50 PM by Riac

thats the nature of soloing. some classes have to wait on CDs. if youre fighting good ppl, youre going to need your CDs no matter what class you are.